Post by Totems4jt on Jul 10, 2008 13:41:11 GMT -5
Jay Tavare
Jul 25, 05 - 6:37 PM For Alison
Alison Asks...
Your biography is fairly vague. That's not meant as a slight against Sage in any way but I'm curious about something that's not mentioned there or anywhere else (as far as I know). I know that you do a lot of good for different organizations and you're, without a doubt, a good person but given all this, why choose acting as a vocation? It seems that much of your time spent on screen would be better spent continuing your work helping others and improving this world in some way. Why choose a career that is, shall we say, in many ways extremely superficial and even a little trivial. Given all that you do in your spare time, why not choose to be a doctor or something along those lines? Just so you know, I love you enough that I spent several long weeks trying to come up with a question that no one else has asked. Now I need a Mudslide. Excuse me while I get the blender. Oh, I'm sorry, can I get you anything? Ladies? Anything for you?
Jay Writes...
Hello Alison, it's funny you should say that. My adopted parents wanted me to be a Doctor, too and I studied to be one for a while. But the first time I visited a hospital with a Dr. for a walk around and saw the sick folks with pain and sadness on their faces, I knew I did not want to be one and help them by pushing pills or cutting into their bodies. I do not agree with you that acting is extremely superficial and even a little trivial job! Actors have been around as long as history has been written and it is a noble job and an important one! I believe you can touch so many people and even change them for the better by a performance that no amount of modern medicine could. When American Indian children see Kayitha in "The Missing" what kind of impact do you think it will have on their young minds? To give hope and make a nation proud, to inspire and change old stereotypes, how can that be trivial? I do not want to be a role model but I will always do a role that will showcase the best of the human race no matter what race I am representing. I love my Job. It is my passion. I am not an actor because I want to be famous or rich, I do it because it feeds my soul just as helping the folks who have less than I. I do not want to be mother Teresa but I do what I can along the way. Life is an opportunity to learn and to give back as you learn. I have walked many paths in my life and have traveled to many nations and always represented my people with dignity and honor. I believe I can do a lot more good by making it in Hollywood and shattering the old views then by sitting in an office pushing pills. I am a story teller and instead of gathering around the fire to hear me now you will sit in a dark room and watch me but the job is the same. Time will tell if I was right.
Jay.
___________________________________________________
Toosie
Jul 25th, 2005 - 7:46 PM Re: For Alison
Jay I truly believe you are showing so many youngster, and those not so young, that there is a way to improve your life. You are doing an outstanding job as an actor and a strong role model for so many.
Keep up the excellent work!
____________________________________________________
firstborn
Jul 25th, 2005 - 8:15 PM Re: For Alison
I have to point out that it is true that performers can make a positive difference in the lives of youngsters. As a child, my uncle took me to a Joseph Papp production in Central Park one summer. As a little African-American girl, I was mesmerized, proud and swept away by the African-American actress reciting Shakespeare in such a beautiful voice. Turns out it was Gloria Foster. Her performance made me read more Shakespeare (more anything) and made me follow her career all the way up to "The Matrix" until her untimely demise a few years ago. She impresssed me and I'll never forget her. She stole every scene she was in with Keanu Reeves.
nita_jl@yahoo.com
___________________________________________________
Duckie
Jul 25th, 2005 - 8:55 PM Re: For Alison
i like the point you made. actors/actress do have a noble job.
___________________________________________________
sh mo / blue Jay
Jul 25th, 2005 - 10:33 PM Re: For Alison
Dear Jaybirds,
I think i kind of understand where Alison is
coming from in her question. In the past &
present there have been actors & actresses &
others in "the Industry" (LOL, what's N. Cage's
line in 'Adaptation', "Don't call it 'the Industry'."........something like that.....i know
i could never act, aside from act stupid, or
be on the stage.....out of town that is.....
oh, yeah, i could never act because i could
never remember THE WORDS).... so much for my
attention span.....oh yeah, re actors,....
past & present where, sure got the impression
that, that person was the center of everything,
like;
STARRING...yada yada, and co-starring & in a
cameo role Life, The Story, & Humanity.
taaaaaaaaa-daaaaaaaaaaah, ......
hope i'm not messing this up too badly. but
yeah, some have given the impression of living
up to, or down to, "superficial & trivial".
so yeah, i understand that part.
But, i do understand the importance, value,
substance, wealth, & more of 'story telling'.
I think i heard (don't know where i could
find the quote) but that Mr. Speilberg thought
of himself as a story teller than...producer,
leader in entertainment, i forget the word.
I've always loved reading, stories, alot of
movies, but since coming to this site (thank you Sage, Mr. T, and Jaybirds), i've come to
understand...realize....the value of a story.
and where is the story with out someone to
tell it, be it by book, poem, drawing-painting,
photograph, play, or yes, movie. There is a book, made into movie also, "When the Legends
Die" about a young Ute man, leaves 'the old ways', goes into rodeo riding (nothing against
rodeos intented) but then comes full circle and
goes back to the reservation, Ute people, to
teach and pass on 'the old ways'. well, the
saying (tagline??) from the start of the book
is "When the legends die, there is no more
greatness", (or pretty close). So yeah, role
models, however passed on counts, is important.
Wonder what the world would be like if more
people had Chief Joseph or George Washington Carver as role models. There are so many more.
I was so impressed with Mr. Tavare as Kayitah,
it was like 'drop my mouth!!'. Yep, proof of
hard work (for lack of a better phrase, cuz when you love
doing something....), commitment to work, research
into understanding & portraying the person &
what he represents, a job well done. ok, Jaybirds, i know, surprassing a 'job well done'.
i am glad that there have been, and are now,
actors/actresses, that do an incredible job,
body of work, and it could go to their heads,
but still have their feet on the ground. Yep,
that's Mr. T, & Eric Schweig & Wes Studi to name
a few, have really impressed me with their
work, and again, keeping their feet on the ground, doing other things in life and for
others. not just wrapped up in own world &
personal life.
Growing up in 50s & 60s, westerns were a big
part of TV & movies (ok!!! i admit it!!!! so
i had a huge infatuation with Roy Rogers!!!
even if he was a married man!!). But mostly
what, at the time, i liked & remembered about
westerns was that there were HORSES!!! and
BEING OUTSIDED!!!! so when i would hear or
read about people knocking westerns, like when
'The Missing' came out, i didn't really know
what they were talking about....what's wrong with horses & being outside? But then, awhile
back, my son & i were up late, and an old
western on Geronimo came on. i about dropped
my mouth again, cuz parts of it were such a
gross misrepresentation of Geronimo, the Apache
people, & Nat. Am./Am. Indians. Some of it was
so off that it was ludicrous (?), and almost
...funny ain't the right word..., except if
anyone was so grossly misrepresented, it would
not be funny at all. This is where i need
Christi to help me talk and explain what i'm
trying to say without me making a complete mess of it. So, re breaking stereotypes, not
only important but fair, just, right, and about
time. In the old movie i was watching, a couple of scenes included Apache treatment of women, and it was so far off course. Then i
compare it with Kayitah's words to Jones
explaining their chase to find his son's
bride, and he says (close) 'they have stolen
his future.' Wording it that way, i dropped
my mouth (i know, shut my mouth, or i'll
catch....). To me, that was sooooooooooome
way of expressing the value of a wife, female.
Never in all my life have i ever heard anything
like that. Really got the point across. Got more examples, thoughts, but, i'll wind up taking
too much space.
Did anyone ever see "the Far Side" comic (now
who would guess i like 'the Far Side') and
it goes something like, the Lone Ranger is sitting in his padded living room chair reading a book, something like a dictionary of
terms, and he says something like, "Hey!!
Wait a minute(/minete)!! 'Kimo Sabe' means
horse's ass!"
don't mean any offense, if i did i'd just
throw a cream pie. don't mean to sound like i'm up on a soapbox. if i was up on a soapbox, it's just because i'm short & trying to see what's going on.
who remembers the beginning to the TV show,
"Steven Speilberg's Amazing Stories"? (jumping up and down, hyperventilating, 'Teacher!! Teacher!! Pick me!! Pick me!! I do!! I know!!)
It starts with people sitting around a campfire.......with a story being told. i really
love the part when the book takes off flying
around.
So, in conclusion, i understand that some
actors/..., have given the profession a less
than worthy name, and do make their end of
story telling superficial, trivial, but, so
glad, and more, that there are those like
Mr. Tavare that are riding hard over the superficial,etc., and
leaving it way, way, far behind in the dust.
thanks for bringing up a good thread/discussion.
(in my new disguise as a super - hero in training through a home study program)
typist x
All Y'all
____________________________________________________
Dazzle
Jul 25th, 2005 - 11:27 PM Re: For Alison ..................( Jay )
Hello Jay,
It is ironic that you were on your way to medical school. Several years after I graduated from college, and had my son, my life was looking for a new direction, one where I could help people. I thought medical school. Headed back to college for Post-Bacclaureate classes, finished that and went on the hospital tour, and I wanted to work in Pediatrics, and I could not handle it. I felt that all the little children should be out playing and having a good time, so I went into in Teaching instead.
Everyone has to walk their own God-given path and/or purpose in this life whether another understands it, is not a concern. At the end of the day, it's all about whether we've helped or hindered mankind.
I'm glad that you - Jay have found your place in this life, I'm a 'Jack' of many trades and am still trying to discover which one is "The" one.
Always in your corner
Dazz
___________________________________________________
Seania
Jul 26th, 2005 - 3:58 AM Re: For Alison
All in all, great question to ask Alli! And thank you Jay for always answering questions in an intelligent, yet humble way.
Blessings to all of you.
Sea~
tmp3737@bellsouth.net
____________________________________________________
The Muse
Jul 26th, 2005 - 5:01 AM For Alison
Congratulations Alison.
Jay, some people come into our lives and quietly go. Others stay for awhile and leave footprints on our hearts and we are never the same. Learning is its own exceeding great reward.
____________________________________________________
Alison McDaniel
Jul 26th, 2005 - 11:42 AM Re: For Alison
Just so you guys know, this was NOT the question that I wanted to ask. And because I didn't word it right it came out sounding more like a criticism for his career choice than anything else and that was NOT what I was going for. Needless to say I'm not happy with my error and the fact that (to me) it sounds like I insulted Jay which was not my intent. I apologize to Jay and I'm definitely sorry that I didn't get my email out to Sage sooner so that she could delete it before Jay read it. Anyways, I just thought I'd put this out there before more people thought I was just in the mood to be an a------. I'm sorry Jay. Hopefully I'll be able to get it right next time.
mcdaniel37@yahoo.com
____________________________________________________
Barbara
Jul 26th, 2005 - 1:57 PM Re: For Alison
Me, I love a good story.
____________________________________________________
Claire Valencia
Jul 26th, 2005 - 6:44 PM Re: For Alison-Jay-I love your choice
Jay,
Being a person who practices medicine-my passion- and someone who always wonders am I doing enough for those around me-I applaud your choice.
What you do is provide role models, inspiration and enlightenment with your portrayals-always done with dignity. Life is harsh, life is equally beautiful. It takes all kinds to make living worth while.
I get so much joy from your work-sometimes it can make a disastrous day turn around for me. What you do as an actor and story teller provides me with therapy-joy-a special kind of medicine I can't administer.
Jay, you are in a position to do so much good for people. Your looks and talent open doors-but your wisdom and compassion keep those doors open for others to follow right behind you. I can't think of a higher compliment than to know that one has have affected so many people's lives in such a positive way.
Keep on keeping on ...Mr. Man
Jul 25, 05 - 6:37 PM For Alison
Alison Asks...
Your biography is fairly vague. That's not meant as a slight against Sage in any way but I'm curious about something that's not mentioned there or anywhere else (as far as I know). I know that you do a lot of good for different organizations and you're, without a doubt, a good person but given all this, why choose acting as a vocation? It seems that much of your time spent on screen would be better spent continuing your work helping others and improving this world in some way. Why choose a career that is, shall we say, in many ways extremely superficial and even a little trivial. Given all that you do in your spare time, why not choose to be a doctor or something along those lines? Just so you know, I love you enough that I spent several long weeks trying to come up with a question that no one else has asked. Now I need a Mudslide. Excuse me while I get the blender. Oh, I'm sorry, can I get you anything? Ladies? Anything for you?
Jay Writes...
Hello Alison, it's funny you should say that. My adopted parents wanted me to be a Doctor, too and I studied to be one for a while. But the first time I visited a hospital with a Dr. for a walk around and saw the sick folks with pain and sadness on their faces, I knew I did not want to be one and help them by pushing pills or cutting into their bodies. I do not agree with you that acting is extremely superficial and even a little trivial job! Actors have been around as long as history has been written and it is a noble job and an important one! I believe you can touch so many people and even change them for the better by a performance that no amount of modern medicine could. When American Indian children see Kayitha in "The Missing" what kind of impact do you think it will have on their young minds? To give hope and make a nation proud, to inspire and change old stereotypes, how can that be trivial? I do not want to be a role model but I will always do a role that will showcase the best of the human race no matter what race I am representing. I love my Job. It is my passion. I am not an actor because I want to be famous or rich, I do it because it feeds my soul just as helping the folks who have less than I. I do not want to be mother Teresa but I do what I can along the way. Life is an opportunity to learn and to give back as you learn. I have walked many paths in my life and have traveled to many nations and always represented my people with dignity and honor. I believe I can do a lot more good by making it in Hollywood and shattering the old views then by sitting in an office pushing pills. I am a story teller and instead of gathering around the fire to hear me now you will sit in a dark room and watch me but the job is the same. Time will tell if I was right.
Jay.
___________________________________________________
Toosie
Jul 25th, 2005 - 7:46 PM Re: For Alison
Jay I truly believe you are showing so many youngster, and those not so young, that there is a way to improve your life. You are doing an outstanding job as an actor and a strong role model for so many.
Keep up the excellent work!
____________________________________________________
firstborn
Jul 25th, 2005 - 8:15 PM Re: For Alison
I have to point out that it is true that performers can make a positive difference in the lives of youngsters. As a child, my uncle took me to a Joseph Papp production in Central Park one summer. As a little African-American girl, I was mesmerized, proud and swept away by the African-American actress reciting Shakespeare in such a beautiful voice. Turns out it was Gloria Foster. Her performance made me read more Shakespeare (more anything) and made me follow her career all the way up to "The Matrix" until her untimely demise a few years ago. She impresssed me and I'll never forget her. She stole every scene she was in with Keanu Reeves.
nita_jl@yahoo.com
___________________________________________________
Duckie
Jul 25th, 2005 - 8:55 PM Re: For Alison
i like the point you made. actors/actress do have a noble job.
___________________________________________________
sh mo / blue Jay
Jul 25th, 2005 - 10:33 PM Re: For Alison
Dear Jaybirds,
I think i kind of understand where Alison is
coming from in her question. In the past &
present there have been actors & actresses &
others in "the Industry" (LOL, what's N. Cage's
line in 'Adaptation', "Don't call it 'the Industry'."........something like that.....i know
i could never act, aside from act stupid, or
be on the stage.....out of town that is.....
oh, yeah, i could never act because i could
never remember THE WORDS).... so much for my
attention span.....oh yeah, re actors,....
past & present where, sure got the impression
that, that person was the center of everything,
like;
STARRING...yada yada, and co-starring & in a
cameo role Life, The Story, & Humanity.
taaaaaaaaa-daaaaaaaaaaah, ......
hope i'm not messing this up too badly. but
yeah, some have given the impression of living
up to, or down to, "superficial & trivial".
so yeah, i understand that part.
But, i do understand the importance, value,
substance, wealth, & more of 'story telling'.
I think i heard (don't know where i could
find the quote) but that Mr. Speilberg thought
of himself as a story teller than...producer,
leader in entertainment, i forget the word.
I've always loved reading, stories, alot of
movies, but since coming to this site (thank you Sage, Mr. T, and Jaybirds), i've come to
understand...realize....the value of a story.
and where is the story with out someone to
tell it, be it by book, poem, drawing-painting,
photograph, play, or yes, movie. There is a book, made into movie also, "When the Legends
Die" about a young Ute man, leaves 'the old ways', goes into rodeo riding (nothing against
rodeos intented) but then comes full circle and
goes back to the reservation, Ute people, to
teach and pass on 'the old ways'. well, the
saying (tagline??) from the start of the book
is "When the legends die, there is no more
greatness", (or pretty close). So yeah, role
models, however passed on counts, is important.
Wonder what the world would be like if more
people had Chief Joseph or George Washington Carver as role models. There are so many more.
I was so impressed with Mr. Tavare as Kayitah,
it was like 'drop my mouth!!'. Yep, proof of
hard work (for lack of a better phrase, cuz when you love
doing something....), commitment to work, research
into understanding & portraying the person &
what he represents, a job well done. ok, Jaybirds, i know, surprassing a 'job well done'.
i am glad that there have been, and are now,
actors/actresses, that do an incredible job,
body of work, and it could go to their heads,
but still have their feet on the ground. Yep,
that's Mr. T, & Eric Schweig & Wes Studi to name
a few, have really impressed me with their
work, and again, keeping their feet on the ground, doing other things in life and for
others. not just wrapped up in own world &
personal life.
Growing up in 50s & 60s, westerns were a big
part of TV & movies (ok!!! i admit it!!!! so
i had a huge infatuation with Roy Rogers!!!
even if he was a married man!!). But mostly
what, at the time, i liked & remembered about
westerns was that there were HORSES!!! and
BEING OUTSIDED!!!! so when i would hear or
read about people knocking westerns, like when
'The Missing' came out, i didn't really know
what they were talking about....what's wrong with horses & being outside? But then, awhile
back, my son & i were up late, and an old
western on Geronimo came on. i about dropped
my mouth again, cuz parts of it were such a
gross misrepresentation of Geronimo, the Apache
people, & Nat. Am./Am. Indians. Some of it was
so off that it was ludicrous (?), and almost
...funny ain't the right word..., except if
anyone was so grossly misrepresented, it would
not be funny at all. This is where i need
Christi to help me talk and explain what i'm
trying to say without me making a complete mess of it. So, re breaking stereotypes, not
only important but fair, just, right, and about
time. In the old movie i was watching, a couple of scenes included Apache treatment of women, and it was so far off course. Then i
compare it with Kayitah's words to Jones
explaining their chase to find his son's
bride, and he says (close) 'they have stolen
his future.' Wording it that way, i dropped
my mouth (i know, shut my mouth, or i'll
catch....). To me, that was sooooooooooome
way of expressing the value of a wife, female.
Never in all my life have i ever heard anything
like that. Really got the point across. Got more examples, thoughts, but, i'll wind up taking
too much space.
Did anyone ever see "the Far Side" comic (now
who would guess i like 'the Far Side') and
it goes something like, the Lone Ranger is sitting in his padded living room chair reading a book, something like a dictionary of
terms, and he says something like, "Hey!!
Wait a minute(/minete)!! 'Kimo Sabe' means
horse's ass!"
don't mean any offense, if i did i'd just
throw a cream pie. don't mean to sound like i'm up on a soapbox. if i was up on a soapbox, it's just because i'm short & trying to see what's going on.
who remembers the beginning to the TV show,
"Steven Speilberg's Amazing Stories"? (jumping up and down, hyperventilating, 'Teacher!! Teacher!! Pick me!! Pick me!! I do!! I know!!)
It starts with people sitting around a campfire.......with a story being told. i really
love the part when the book takes off flying
around.
So, in conclusion, i understand that some
actors/..., have given the profession a less
than worthy name, and do make their end of
story telling superficial, trivial, but, so
glad, and more, that there are those like
Mr. Tavare that are riding hard over the superficial,etc., and
leaving it way, way, far behind in the dust.
thanks for bringing up a good thread/discussion.
(in my new disguise as a super - hero in training through a home study program)
typist x
All Y'all
____________________________________________________
Dazzle
Jul 25th, 2005 - 11:27 PM Re: For Alison ..................( Jay )
Hello Jay,
It is ironic that you were on your way to medical school. Several years after I graduated from college, and had my son, my life was looking for a new direction, one where I could help people. I thought medical school. Headed back to college for Post-Bacclaureate classes, finished that and went on the hospital tour, and I wanted to work in Pediatrics, and I could not handle it. I felt that all the little children should be out playing and having a good time, so I went into in Teaching instead.
Everyone has to walk their own God-given path and/or purpose in this life whether another understands it, is not a concern. At the end of the day, it's all about whether we've helped or hindered mankind.
I'm glad that you - Jay have found your place in this life, I'm a 'Jack' of many trades and am still trying to discover which one is "The" one.
Always in your corner
Dazz
___________________________________________________
Seania
Jul 26th, 2005 - 3:58 AM Re: For Alison
All in all, great question to ask Alli! And thank you Jay for always answering questions in an intelligent, yet humble way.
Blessings to all of you.
Sea~
tmp3737@bellsouth.net
____________________________________________________
The Muse
Jul 26th, 2005 - 5:01 AM For Alison
Congratulations Alison.
Jay, some people come into our lives and quietly go. Others stay for awhile and leave footprints on our hearts and we are never the same. Learning is its own exceeding great reward.
____________________________________________________
Alison McDaniel
Jul 26th, 2005 - 11:42 AM Re: For Alison
Just so you guys know, this was NOT the question that I wanted to ask. And because I didn't word it right it came out sounding more like a criticism for his career choice than anything else and that was NOT what I was going for. Needless to say I'm not happy with my error and the fact that (to me) it sounds like I insulted Jay which was not my intent. I apologize to Jay and I'm definitely sorry that I didn't get my email out to Sage sooner so that she could delete it before Jay read it. Anyways, I just thought I'd put this out there before more people thought I was just in the mood to be an a------. I'm sorry Jay. Hopefully I'll be able to get it right next time.
mcdaniel37@yahoo.com
____________________________________________________
Barbara
Jul 26th, 2005 - 1:57 PM Re: For Alison
Me, I love a good story.
____________________________________________________
Claire Valencia
Jul 26th, 2005 - 6:44 PM Re: For Alison-Jay-I love your choice
Jay,
Being a person who practices medicine-my passion- and someone who always wonders am I doing enough for those around me-I applaud your choice.
What you do is provide role models, inspiration and enlightenment with your portrayals-always done with dignity. Life is harsh, life is equally beautiful. It takes all kinds to make living worth while.
I get so much joy from your work-sometimes it can make a disastrous day turn around for me. What you do as an actor and story teller provides me with therapy-joy-a special kind of medicine I can't administer.
Jay, you are in a position to do so much good for people. Your looks and talent open doors-but your wisdom and compassion keep those doors open for others to follow right behind you. I can't think of a higher compliment than to know that one has have affected so many people's lives in such a positive way.
Keep on keeping on ...Mr. Man